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Homosexuálni kresťania na Slovensku • Zobrazenie témy - Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

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Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod Akallabeth » 27 Feb 2014, 19:36

Dnes mi pristala v maili tato sprava:

http://www.rozhlas.cz/radiowave/kver/_zprava/1320031

a este dovetok:

http://www.blisty.cz/art/72311.html

Reakcia miestneho katolickeho knaza bola sokujuca... :cry: :cry: :cry:
Uplne zbytocne vyhasnuty mlady zivot, to je strasne!!! :cry: :cry: :cry:

V sobotu bude cely rozhovor.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

http://ona.idnes.cz/ester-janeckova-syn ... ecnost_jup
http://revue.idnes.cz/synovec-ester-jan ... lidicky_nh
Naposledy upravil Akallabeth dňa 27 Feb 2014, 19:44, celkovo upravené 1
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Re: Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod Akallabeth » 27 Feb 2014, 19:39

Este ked zagooglite, tak najdete asi aj odkazy na rozne bulvarnejsie spravy....nechcem to tu uz vkladat.
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Re: Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod Tarhiel » 27 Feb 2014, 23:12

Toho chlapca je mi strašne ľúto - mne príde ako taký Slovenský Bobby.
A je to strašná škoda - bol v nacjitlivejšom období (puberta), no o to je to trpkejšie :/
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Re: Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod Akallabeth » 10 Mar 2014, 22:51

Tu je potom cely rozhovor

http://www.rozhlas.cz/radiowave/kver/_z ... i--1321966

doplneny o nazory aj cirkevnych predstavitelov, katolicky pohlad mi prisiel taky nedopovedany a zahmleny...
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Re: Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod someone » 17 Mar 2014, 16:42

:(
Posledne stretko 15.3. si dal namahu prist medzi nas aj clovek z Logos Praha, za co velka vdaka.
Tak sme mali aj dake info o smrti toho chlapca blizsie k samotnemu dianiu - Logos pozval jeho rodicov na stretnutie, co to nam o tom povedal, aj ked momentalne je to este stale skor o bolesti bez slov, spoluucasti a spoluplakani, lebo cokolvek naviac, len ublizuje... (haleluja, radujte sa ved je v nebi a ine "pozitivne myslenie" v case bolesti je ako kladivom do hlavy, no ale koho asi este dost srdce nebolelo, tak nechape a bude udierat, v domneni, ze ake dobro kona...)
Skor neverbalne vyjadrenia nasho Logosaka mi povedali viac, nez jeho slova... (no, ale k tomu treba "pocuvat, co sa nehovori", tzv. soft skills, o ktorych sa opakujem a budem opakovat...)

Nastala aj debata, o dovodoch jeho odchodu zo sveta, a trochu necitlive zjednodusenia a zovseobecnenia, no len som bola rada, ze na nasom stretnuti ti jeho rodicia neboli...
Tak som trochu googlila, ci sa da uz vediet, okrem slz, aj nieco viac.

Viac info cez Google:
Filip Havlíček sebevražda...
About 218,000 results
https://www.google.sk/?gws_rd=cr&ei=CPU ... ra%C5%BEda

Jemu venovana stranka:
https://www.facebook.com/Filip.Havlicek.RIP?ref=stream

Hlavne info:

...14 rocny s "inou sexualnou orientaciou"

...2.2.2014 spachal samovrazdu



- konstatovanie, smutok a hnev ze "dnesny svet je naprosto plny predsudkov a nenavisti k urcitym skupinam ludi..."
- tuzbu, "aby to tak nebolo, aby sa so vsetkymi ludmi zachadzalo rovnako, aby doslo k rovnopravnosti vsetkych ludi na zemi..."
- sklamanie...? smutok...? znechutenie...? vycerpanie...? "zmrzacenie...?" z toho, ze "I cant change even if I tried!" - co zdoraznil celkom osobitne, hoci citatom uz pouzitym, ale - uplne osobitne zvyraznenim, ako jeho vlastne zvolanie "Nedokazem sa ZMENIT, hoci som sa o to pokusal"...!!! zmenit na heterosexuala...


http://www.blesk.cz/galerie/zpravy-udal ... ryc?foto=5
http://www.blesk.cz/galerie/zpravy-udal ... ryc?foto=6
(treba si zvacsit foto rozluckoveho listu cez klik vpravo hore na fotke)


- nuz - ze preco cela ta studia o NEmoznosti zmeny a SKODLIVOSTI sirenia takych LZI... http://www.gaychristians.sk/view.php?ci ... 2004120002

- a preco vsetky tie uz 20-rocne unavne snazenia a doterajsi des a hroza z podobnych LZI sirenych aj dnes v SR velmi aktivne, napr. aj cez Aliancu za rodinu sirenim a propagovanim knihy a prednasok od Gabrielle Kuby, ktora aj v knihe, aj v prednaskach po SK explicitne tvrdi, ze homosexualna orientacia sa da zmenit...!!! http://www.forumzivota.sk/2013/11/15/li ... cov-nr-sr/

- podobne, ako
evanjelikalny krestan v USA - film "Prayers for Bobby" http://www.gaychristians.sk/showpage.php?name=pramene
rimsky katolik v Taliansku - film "Alfredo's Fire" http://www.gaychristians.sk/view.php?ci ... 2008020021
a teraz teda aj mlady clovek v Ceskej republike, teda skoro u nas... a mozno kolki aj u nas, len bez listov na rozlucku...

Nuz mozeme sa podakovat asi aj takym ludom, ako je vytrvaly autor podobnych clankov
http://neviditelnypes.lidovky.cz/novina ... idnov=1459
http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/arena/ro ... gay-302448
reakcia tu
http://www.parlamentnilisty.cz/arena/na ... chu-302641
A pritom take nazory v CR skor ako vynimka - u nas - ako "hlavne spravy"...

atd. atd. atd. az do vycerpania... a kaleraby a kladiva aj tak budu dalej do hlav, ved im nejde o ludi, ako tvrdia., ale o hajenie svojho presvedcenia, ktore nazyvaju "pravda"...
nuz presne toho sa desim, ako velmi sa vsetko to negativne vyjadrovanie o homosexualite vryva do duse terajsich mladych, ktori sa zorientovavaju... a to som si v ich veku myslela, ze o 30 rokov bude aj v SR inak... hej, je... este horsie...

Prosim preposlite info o smrti tohto mladeho chlapca dalej, zvlast do "kalerabovych poli", ktore si hovoria "za zivot"... aj ked, prave oni si zdovodnia jeho smrt tym, ze "bol psychicky labilny..." a nie - sebou, svojim sirenim negativneho obrazu homosexuality (lebo ved oni "nenavist" nesiria... nuz priamo nie... 2000 rokov negativity voci Zidom sa zasluzilo o holokaust v 20. storoci...)

:cry:

Shalom
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Re: Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod someone » 17 Mar 2014, 16:56

PS.

A ano, podla vsetkeho bol veriacim krestanom - kym vladal nim byt...

"Mlaďounký Filip měl celý život před sebou, ale nedokázal se smířit s tím, jak netolerantní je společnost k homosexuálům.
Neustále slyšel narážky na svou orientaci a jednoho dne se oběsil doma na zahradě.
Doma zanechal na rozloučenou dopis, ve kterém vysvětloval to, jak jsou lidé stále agresivní vůči menšinám.
Bohužel, právě to, kvůli čemu tak trpěl, se projevilo přímo na samotném pohřbu.
Jeho rodina pravidelně navštěvovala kostel.
Filip to ale jako věřící gay neměl jednoduché a později do kostela přestal chodit.
Nechtěl totiž poslouchat kázání homofobního kněze, který se pak objevil i na samotném pohřbu...

„Když už se chýlilo ke konci a měla se začít odnášet rakev, tak vystartoval místní farář
a začal, že už nechtěl mluvit, ale že se musí ozvat na to, co tam povídal ten předseda gayů,
a že to rozhodně takhle není a že registrované partnerství je hrozný problém
a ať si lidi jsou homosexuálové, ale že se tak přece nemusí chovat,“
popsala neuvěřitelné chování kněze Janečková v pořadu Kvér Radia Wave."


...

http://www.extra.cz/ester-janeckova-odh ... islo-peklo

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Re: Vyhasnuty mlady zivot kvoli homofobii

Poslaťod someone » 17 Mar 2014, 17:08

No a do tretice

- ten citat v rozluckovom liste bol zo songu

same love macklemore
About 21,500,000 results
https://www.google.sk/?gws_rd=cr&ei=CPU ... macklemore

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlVBg7_08n0&feature=kp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same_Love

"Same Love"
(with Ryan Lewis)
(feat. Mary Lambert)

[Piano Intro]

[Verse 1: Macklemore]
When I was in the 3rd grade
I thought that I was gay
Cause I could draw, my uncle was
And I kept my room straight
I told my mom, tears rushing down my face
She's like, "Ben, you've loved girls since before Pre-K!"
Tripping, yeah, I guess she had a point, didn't she?
A bunch of stereotypes all in my head
I remember doing the math, like
"Yeah, I'm good at little league"
A pre-conceived idea of what it all meant
For those that like the same sex had the characteristics
The right-wing conservatives think it's a decision
And you can be cured with some treatment and religion
Man-made, rewiring of a pre-disposition, playing God
Ahh, nah, here we go
America the brave still fears what we don't know
And "God loves all his children" is somehow forgotten
But we paraphrase a book written thirty-five hundred years ago
I don't know

[Hook: Mary Lambert]
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love, my love, my love

She keeps me warm
[x4]

[Verse 2: Macklemore]
If I was gay I would think hip-hop hates me
Have you read the YouTube comments lately?
"Man, that's gay" gets dropped on the daily
We've become so numb to what we're saying
Our culture founded from oppression
Yet we don't have acceptance for 'em
Call each other faggots
Behind the keys of a message board
A word rooted in hate
Yet our genre still ignores it
"Gay" is synonymous with the lesser
It's the same hate that's caused wars from religion
Gender to skin color, the complexion of your pigment
The same fight that led people to walk-outs and sit-ins
It's human rights for everybody, there is no difference
Live on! And be yourself!
When I was in church they taught me something else
If you preach hate at the service, those words aren't anointed
That Holy Water that you soak in has been poisoned
When everyone else is more comfortable remaining voiceless
Rather than fighting for humans that have had their rights stolen
I might not be the same but that's not important
No freedom til we're equal
Damn right I support it


[Trombone Interlude]
I don't know

[Hook]

[Verse 3: Macklemore]
We press play, don't press pause
Progress, march on!
With a veil over our eyes, we turn our back on the cause
'Til the day that my uncles can be united by law
Kids are walking around the hallway
Plagued by pain in their heart
A world so hateful
Some would rather die

Than be who they are
And a certificate on paper
Isn't gonna solve it all
But it's a damn good place to start
No law's gonna change us
We have to change us
Whatever god you believe in
We come from the same one
Strip away the fear, underneath, it's all the same love
About time that we raised up!

[Hook]

[Outro: Mary Lambert]
Love is patient, love is kind
Love is patient (not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind (not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient (not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind (not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient (not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind (not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient (not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind (not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient (not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind (not crying on Sundays)








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